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Post by Phobos & Deimos on Aug 16, 2021 1:35:15 GMT
Hey WTF You were building that on Vanara! Now that you're not playing Survivor you have no excuse.
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Post by Hades on Aug 16, 2021 1:38:51 GMT
Honestly, I might just do that during the jury questioning phase because I legit have no idea what to even say since Jesus has no chance of winning my vote.
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ਜੀ, ਜੋ ਕਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਹੱਥ ਵਿਚ ਇਕ ਤੰਬੂ ਦੀ ਕਿਲ੍ਲੀ ਹੈ, ਪਰ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਤੁਹਾਨੂੰ ਮਿਲਣ ਲਈ ਖੁਸ਼ ਹੈ :)
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Post by Jael on Aug 16, 2021 1:42:12 GMT
Nothing MH could say that would lose your vote then? That's interesting.
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Post by Athena on Aug 16, 2021 1:43:06 GMT
I'm pretty excited for the jury questioning phase. I feel like I don't really know who I'm going to be voting for in the end. I know who I'm leaning towards but I feel that it'll very much be subject to rapid change.
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Post by Hades on Aug 16, 2021 1:52:18 GMT
Nothing MH could say that would lose your vote then? That's interesting. I mean, honestly, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I struggle to think of anything Jesus did this game that wasn't just following someone else's decisions or just leaking information (which is something everyone here did, including me). Hermes, Elo, Athena (M+H's idea btw), etc I just can't think of a single time. He played way too passively. Whereas I feel M+H made bigger moves and was way more in control, even when things didn't work out, they still managed to recover and make it here which I see as way more impressive. Obviously I am biased because M+H was my #1 but that's my reasoning. Also, something minor, but as someone who went to what was it, 15(?) out of this game's 19 TCs the second most out of anyone in the game behind only Poppy, I am a bit irritated by how Jesus just kind of coasted to merge and didn't face much in the way of real adversity when my understanding is that he almost certainly would have been either the first or second boot on Jotunn.
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Jael
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ਜੀ, ਜੋ ਕਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਹੱਥ ਵਿਚ ਇਕ ਤੰਬੂ ਦੀ ਕਿਲ੍ਲੀ ਹੈ, ਪਰ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਤੁਹਾਨੂੰ ਮਿਲਣ ਲਈ ਖੁਸ਼ ਹੈ :)
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Post by Jael on Aug 16, 2021 2:00:07 GMT
That's very very fair. You're not wrong though. I ranked people in tribes and stuff regularly and Jesus sat firmly on the bottom of my rankings up until he told me about the Moirai stuff. Like at all points this game I was quite content to vote him out. That really never changed, he just became a guy that I might need cuz if I couldn't make any progress with some people, I may as well try for the people who were actually telling me anything. But I still was always down to see if Jesus could pull off a Resurrection.
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Post by Hermes on Aug 16, 2021 2:05:54 GMT
For what it's worth I very much feel the same way about Jesus. I think M&H being as savvy as they are caught me totally off guard. Like they did such a good job of presenting as happy go lucky, lets just share kpop and make nick names for people!!!
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Post by Athena on Aug 16, 2021 2:10:39 GMT
To offer an alternative perspective on Jesus, I think they intentionally played in a way so as to pass by under the radar and utilized their "lower" position to get themselves into a pretty good position come merge. I mean, I only became allies with Jesus because he specifically reached out to me from basically the very first challenge of the game, and that directly lead to the Jesus/Hades/Athena alliance. And, once he was there, I'm unsure he needed to do too much more that was actively *flashy* to secure his position. He was kind of in the sweet spot of not too threatening but also not an easy vote. And I think he played up his position well. Obviously M+H made more and more visible moves but I don't think Jesus was entirely an empty slot this game.
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Post by Phobos & Deimos on Aug 16, 2021 2:11:36 GMT
It's not his fault he was never on a tribe with Paps... Even if he didn't go to TCs he made bonds in the premerge that let him coast to the end here. See difference between Jesus and Jael who was literally dead before the merge began.
Uh, idk if I can make myself vote for someone who stabbed me so brutally. Maybe I'll just let Phobos vote.
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Post by Hades on Aug 16, 2021 2:22:13 GMT
To offer an alternative perspective on Jesus, I think they intentionally played in a way so as to pass by under the radar and utilized their "lower" position to get themselves into a pretty good position come merge. I mean, I only became allies with Jesus because he specifically reached out to me from basically the very first challenge of the game, and that directly lead to the Jesus/Hades/Athena alliance. And, once he was there, I'm unsure he needed to do too much more that was actively *flashy* to secure his position. He was kind of in the sweet spot of not too threatening but also not an easy vote. And I think he played up his position well. Obviously M+H made more and more visible moves but I don't think Jesus was entirely an empty slot this game. As a counterargument to this, I would say the reason M+H and I went up to bat for him when he was offered up as a vote in a couple of rounds was because we both felt he would be pretty easy to beat at the end because he didn't really have a resume compared to both of us.
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Post by Hades on Aug 16, 2021 2:27:32 GMT
Like, the rounds I was considering pushing for his elimination, it's not because I thought he was a threat to win but only because he would be taking up a slot at the end and I wanted to secure my own position.
I also do not think he was intentionally playing his position pre merge, I'm pretty sure he just fucked up building connections on Jotunn and reached out to us because he had nothing else to really work with there. Like, surely he was aware he would have been on the block if that tribe had gone to TC and I can't imagine a scenario where he willingly puts himself on the verge of elimination.
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Post by Eloritu on Aug 16, 2021 2:29:46 GMT
well now who the fuck am I gonna vote for, I don't care about either of them
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Post by Hades on Aug 16, 2021 2:32:48 GMT
Hi Elo, sorry I blindsided you :/
I couldn't tell you because I figured Jael had the idol (at the time) and didn't want to risk them playing it on you, even though I felt they were more likely to use it on the Moirai round.
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Post by Eloritu on Aug 16, 2021 2:33:22 GMT
there was no way Jael would ever idol me you dumbshit, she was going to murder me the very next round
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Hades
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Post by Hades on Aug 16, 2021 2:34:50 GMT
Ok well, I still would have voted for you though >_>
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