this conversation actually came first chronologically. probably the starkest difference in our game styles. Ma'at is against stabbing allies. Hathor is willing to consider it. This is also vastly different approaches to Survivor in general.
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:10 PM
ooooh
ok then
he needs to die immediately [referring to Bilious]
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:10 PM
no dont do that
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:10 PM
[he seems like a threat]
needs to die
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:10 PM
i dont care
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:10 PM
he's tooooooo good
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:10 PM
we arent killing him
we can go to ftc with him
Idc if i lose to him
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:11 PM
n o p
we are not playing against our wincon!!!!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:11 PM
Hathor you will get us killed targetting him
that is more against wincon
idc we arent gonna be mean to him just cuz hes good at survivor
thats unfair
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:12 PM
it's not mean to vote someone out!
byl is in a great position and needs to be stabbed!!!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:16 PM
NOOOOOO
we can befriend him!
stabbing threats is not Ma’at approved!
because i get stabbed for that!
and its not cool
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:17 PM
you just gotta do it right
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:18 PM
i dont agreeee
i think if he gets stabbed by someone else, thats on him
but stabbing ourselves solely because he is doing well is total bullshit
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:18 PM
maat and hathor will not be passive players!!!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:18 PM
like thats just so unfair
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:18 PM
how is that bs
that's survivor!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:18 PM
we stab if we think they are trying to get us killed
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:18 PM
if someone's doing well you gotta take action
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
thats the only time its allowed!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
not necessarily
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
i hate thatttttt
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
what if they're going to win
but want us at the end as a goat
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
that is the case for EVERYONE
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
we gotta take 'em out even if it doesn't fit that description
Exactly
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
i dont agree!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
everyone's a target
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
oh boy
this is gonna be fun
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:19 PM
and you gotta start planning how you'll take out everyone
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:20 PM
ok so like no. thats not ok. i think we take out peopel that arent on our side
that is it
if they are on our side, we keep them
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:20 PM
but sometimes our side needs to be trimmed!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:20 PM
and deal with whatever problems there may be at ftc
No!!!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:20 PM
and not everyone who says they are on our side is actually on our side!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:20 PM
unless they are planning to stab us, we dont do that
we arent just taking their word for it anyways
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:21 PM
yeaaa but
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:21 PM
like loki says hes on our side
and we're thinking about it
and not just taking it
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:21 PM
we can't just go with the flow or we won't get things to talk about at ftc!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:21 PM
stabbing just because they are a threat is so wrong!
we dont have to stab threats
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:21 PM
that's literally
half of merge play
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:21 PM
we will still have so many things to talk about
we can talk about alliances
and stabbing random people that werent on our side
but we cant stab jsut bc threat!
thats unfair
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:22 PM
survivor's unfair
:L
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:22 PM
like you try not to be a challenge threat because people take you out for it
thats just stupid
like i hate that
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:22 PM
but a lot of survivor is managing your threat level
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:23 PM
its a much better tactic
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:23 PM
because of that very reason
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:23 PM
to befriend threats
and use their power
than to stab them?!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:23 PM
not if you're not a threat yourself
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:23 PM
ugh i just dont agree
half the time the person isnt even a threat
Like
i'd rather lay low
and make a couple big moves late game
than just stab randomly for no good reason
i'd rather befriend byl than stab him
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:24 PM
it's not random and not a good reason!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:24 PM
thats just such a better tactic
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:25 PM
it's a good reason to take someone out that you fear is a threat
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:25 PM
i dont get why threats need to be stabbed
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:25 PM
like only enemies need to be stabbed
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:25 PM
survivor isn't black and white!
things aren't broken down in enemies v friends
everyone is an enemy
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:25 PM
no!!
they are friend unless they arent!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:25 PM
everyone wants to get to the end so everyone is working against you!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:26 PM
and we should keep friends
unless they stop being friends
then we stab them!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:26 PM
well
that's where the definitions are different
no one is our friend
like loki is our friend
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:27 PM
i hate the thought that everyone is our enemy
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:27 PM
but we know he's being a bit suspicious
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:27 PM
that is just so horrible
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:27 PM
jael is kind and nice
but is definitely avoiding us sometimes and doesn't talk game w/ us
It's not horrible! It's playing the game!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:28 PM
but if everyone is our enemy, everyone is fake asf
and i hate that thought
that everything is a lie
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:28 PM
i meeeeean
Basically
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:28 PM
thats just horrible
and fake
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:28 PM
yeah you can make friendships through survivor
but in the game people are being fake
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:28 PM
i hate that!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:28 PM
jsut think of how quick they drop you when they realize you're going
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:28 PM
i dont care!!
i think if we are genuine
they will be more genuine with us
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:29 PM
i mean i agree with that
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:29 PM
being fake only encourages them to be more fake
and then you cant trust anything
i dont like that
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:29 PM
and i think there's definitely a balance
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:29 PM
i dont agree with you on the threat thing though
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:30 PM
but a lot of ms players play very snakily
and fake
so that's the meta here definitely
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:30 PM
its not right to stab people just bc they're a threat
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:30 PM
and i hate that
and i will never agree with it!!!!!!!!!
i hate how a lot of people just think threat = stab
like thats so horrible
i just cant stand that thought process
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:30 PM
because if you want to win/get to ftc you need to be the biggest threat
which means taking out people you see as threats
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:31 PM
and if ur the biggest threat, you wont make it to ftc
i dont think thats the way to playyy
i think middleground is the better option
a coupel big moves is more than enough
a couple solid alliances is also enoguh
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:31 PM
but big moves makes you a threat
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:31 PM
i dont think anything else is needed
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:31 PM
there's no "right" strategy
many people have won with many different things
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
ik but just stabbing threats i dont agree with
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
welllll
we'll need to talk about that more when it comes to tribal
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
like what makes your threat meter right?!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
because we cannot just leave threats alive
perception is reality!
if I feel someone's a threat, they are a threat
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
then just feel no one is a threat
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
But
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
and then you wont have to do that
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
they are :0
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:32 PM
they arent!!!!!
being trusting and vulnerable is not a bad thing!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:33 PM
for me, looking at other players is always, how is this player traversing this game, what is their strategy
and being trusting and vulnerable puts a lot of your eggs in one basket
like i dont think we should keep a lot of these first tribe alliances
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:35 PM
either way i dont think our main concern is byl here
if he helps us get what we want
hes not a threat
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
no i think our main concern on red is poppy
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
i disagree
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
but byl definitely is a social and physical threat
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
welll i kinda agree
i think that if someone consistently goes against us
they should die
otherwise, they should live
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
what if the first time they go against you, they get you
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
threat level doesnt matter
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
some people don't strike twice
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:36 PM
probably wont happen
just keep ok relationships with everyone and we shuold be fine!!
i mean i hear that
but being paranoid af i dont think is the answer
whats the fun in playing if you cant even keep people that u like around u?
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
i mean yeah but i dont act on paranoia
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
u have to stab them just to win
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
i like everyone!
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
like i hate that!!!!!!!!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
but i also am playing to win
and want to make it far
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
oh well i dont
Lmao
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
lol
>_>
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
we can just agree to disagree then
and cross that bridge when we get there
you are not allowed to stab without my permission tho!
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:38 PM
Ofc
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
i'll try to be reasonable about it
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
we make decisions together
all the time
like i enjoy this
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
but you'll have quite some persuading to do lol
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
trying to meet in the middle
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
ughhh i dont i feel like i will cave in
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
especially being so different
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
you're too persuasive damnit
Hathor — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
Ma'at — Yesterday at 11:39 PM
we have very different approaches to the game
and i'll never agree with you
and same with you
but we'll find a way to make it work