Post by Maat & Hathor on Jul 5, 2021 23:47:50 GMT
ok I just read thru pms with radiance and I'm going to pick out where things started going wrong.
I know radiance is a newer player and I will try my best to be as fair in my judgement of him as possible. here I picked the quotes from pms that i had strong opinions on and am going to comment on them to help people see my thought process. this could also be helpful for me!
yeah no worries i'm already incentivized to do my best by default
wonder if future challenges will be more individual-ish stuff or if we'll have to actually get together as a tribe
yeah, Jael is one of the most obscure charaters of the cast, also now i'm forever calling her hammer lady because of that story haha
for what it's worth, i'm kinda seeing a main block starting to draw itself in the tribe with me/you/loki/jael/hermes
well, to be fair i could technically, but that's not the kind of songs i share most of the time
so this is the post where he decides that he wants a majority alliance. the thing is that while i like receiving messages that reassure me like "yes girlie you are alright alive and people like you. ur not getting stabbed. yes take a deep breath" but this is such a bad post to post regardless. like what if we had an alliance with viy earlier? what would happen? this is just a bad post. I feel like there are other ways than just jumping in and being like OK MAAT, GO EAT THIS ALLIANCE.
found it !
yeah as you can see, there's quite a lot of crispy and stuff lol, 10 outta 10, delicious
and wow, that all sounds pretty complex to cook, like, don't get me wrong, i'd eat it, but i personally would mess up at some point in the cooking xd
not a fan of cauliflower too, anyways i eat most of my stuff raw so it should be good technically if i ever to get to it
This was one of two favorite pms I ever got from radiance so kudos to you. the hotdog was great.
artemis replace out
Odysseus looks like a cool fellow at least, so it's a fine tradenothing of great important but lmfao this aged well.
otherwise, since a swap most likely is coming, i think it might be a good idea to create the 5-Person groupchat given we might not have the chance to do so later ?no, sir. the closer you are to a swap, the worse timing it is to make an alliance. one you aren't able to solidify it which needs to happen pretty soon after its made otherwise it falls apart. two if it didn't happen the first time, suggesting it again makes people upset. we allied viy because of this. we felt we could no longer push away this alliance and decided it was time to just search elsewhere. I don't know who radiance is allied with but he likely got us even further from them(assuming its jael) because we no longer felts okay on jotunn in a group with someone constantly trying to shove an alliance that we didn't like down our throat. originally we were good with everyone but this pulled us apart because it was just not a good alliance. and the issue is that radiance was not that high in the hierarchy. this made it looks very desperate that he was trying so hard to get an alliance together so that he has two boots lined up and will stay safer for longer. he really just overshot in a place where he didn't have the power to create this alliance. I understand that jotunn was kind of messy since a lot of people higher in the hierarchy were ok with this alliance because of the power struggle. however, it was still not a good move and made us very certain we wanted radiance dead asap.
otherwise yeah, i do feel like i got a good bond with y'all guys, but no worries, i'm not the kind to just be about pagongs haha
otherwise, i do wonder when we'll be due for a swap now... are the mods somehow going to make 2 tribes work?
no is no. this post annoyed me because we already said no. even if you still want it, you stop pushing because we very clearly rejected the alliance! I understand that he really wanted this alliance but we really didn't want it. so the way to go would be to just make the alliance without us and also just on a 7 person tribe, what are you doing making a 5 person alliance?
?? 3-4 is a much more convenient size that serves you well. all around this alliance was just not what we wanted at all.
for sure. poppy and hades are our favorites but we love everyone else too. odysseus STILL has not replied and since maat and i won't be here for most of tomorrow, we've locked in our vote there basically. unless something drastic happens, i think odysseus goes here.
-HathyWell, i've figured the idol out, but yeah it's been taken already, so no need to feel bad about it, password is JupiterNeptunePluto
Yeah, i think i got them pretty high too, to be fair everyone is pretty high haha, i think it's cuz like, this tribe has everyone who feels good going to TC, aka : social peoples
and odysseus replied, i'll try to update y'all on big developements that do happen while y'all are away
mmmm yikes. I don't know if radiance got the idol or not but his posts surrounding it are so weirdly timed and have this strange tone to them. I actually think that either him, phobos and deimos, or hades has it now. I don't think its hades but I will take a fat L if I'm wrong and I could see it. phobos and deimos were a little dramatic asking us if we had the idol and stuff which was sus af. tbh I don't even care. there's like 5 idols anyways so fuck me for not being able to get a single one.
yeah think i see what you mean, to be wholly honest i find cerberus to be a bit short in his messages, is it just me not giving enough talking material?
also i wonder, did odysseus send something to you about sacrificing stuff and prometheus? i feel like he copy-pasted his message
This was the other favorite message from radiance. it read very very genuine and is a post that almost made me reconsider not working with radiance. from there tho, it just all went downhill
ah well, i've been consistently short but i'll try to give him more volume to work with then, thanks for the adivce !
yeah okay, these are the exact same talking points, ram and something else, but he's replying quick thoughtelling the password to white dragon.....
radiance has a lot of ... bad ideas and this is kind of where it starts to plummet downhill
telling anyone the password is simply not ok because all of taotie knows the password. using it for your own benefits is something that will instantly paint a target on your back.
ah well, he's busy, so maybe not haha
wait really? lol ok, why does the hillarious stuff never happens to me sad time
i'm pretty confident there's no way he dodges the boot there though?
no no no. stop. odysseus is sinking himself. LET HIM SINK. why are you soooo paranoid. he sent two similar messages just being like "the boot is definitely not me right?"
honestly, I am paranoid af but I feel like sometimes sending the same message phrased differently, especially a message like that, just reads so so badly to the receiver. they see it and it just looks like "man this dude has no connections"
he has enough connections to not be this paranoid and I just don't understand why he's going to send that to US especially. like we already aren't on great terms!!!
yeah, i just got that from hades, so thanks for the confirm, i'm considering PM'ing everyone and telling them that odysseus is bluffing tbh, that sounds like a good idea to you?
and that's not the same story than i've got ! he told me that someone specifically threw *my* name under the bus, so the incoherence isn't too good for 'em, but yeah, most likely just scrambling for survival
NO NONOONONONONOONON WHAT ARE YOU DOING
I literally.
like right after I start thinking about maybe allying him for his honesty(that one post that I really liked), he just starts being super self conscious and paranoid and suggests giving the password to white dragon and then also PMING EVERYONE THAT ODYSSEUS IS LYING?!! why would you EVER do that here? everyone is telling you that odysseus is blowing up and a confirmed boot and you seem determined to make yourself the new odysseus.
-Maat
I know radiance is a newer player and I will try my best to be as fair in my judgement of him as possible. here I picked the quotes from pms that i had strong opinions on and am going to comment on them to help people see my thought process. this could also be helpful for me!
Jun 23, 2021 20:28:01 GMT The Radiance said:
oh, you actually got watch orchestras play live? that must be amazing, lucky youyeah no worries i'm already incentivized to do my best by default
wonder if future challenges will be more individual-ish stuff or if we'll have to actually get together as a tribe
yeah, Jael is one of the most obscure charaters of the cast, also now i'm forever calling her hammer lady because of that story haha
for what it's worth, i'm kinda seeing a main block starting to draw itself in the tribe with me/you/loki/jael/hermes
well, to be fair i could technically, but that's not the kind of songs i share most of the time
so this is the post where he decides that he wants a majority alliance. the thing is that while i like receiving messages that reassure me like "yes girlie you are alright alive and people like you. ur not getting stabbed. yes take a deep breath" but this is such a bad post to post regardless. like what if we had an alliance with viy earlier? what would happen? this is just a bad post. I feel like there are other ways than just jumping in and being like OK MAAT, GO EAT THIS ALLIANCE.
Jun 26, 2021 13:27:57 GMT The Radiance said:
found it !
yeah as you can see, there's quite a lot of crispy and stuff lol, 10 outta 10, delicious
and wow, that all sounds pretty complex to cook, like, don't get me wrong, i'd eat it, but i personally would mess up at some point in the cooking xd
not a fan of cauliflower too, anyways i eat most of my stuff raw so it should be good technically if i ever to get to it
This was one of two favorite pms I ever got from radiance so kudos to you. the hotdog was great.
Jun 30, 2021 9:22:08 GMT The Radiance said:
yeah, papa is really enjoyable, i'd be cool working with them later on, i liked F&K too for the recordartemis replace out
Odysseus looks like a cool fellow at least, so it's a fine tradeJun 30, 2021 21:18:21 GMT The Radiance said:
yeah exactly, i mean though, that's all assuming the mods are nice to us, which may or may not be the case hahaotherwise, since a swap most likely is coming, i think it might be a good idea to create the 5-Person groupchat given we might not have the chance to do so later ?
Jul 2, 2021 10:01:45 GMT The Radiance said:
yeah okay that's fair, although no swap, so now things get interesting ! But heck, for what's Maat saying, that's assuming like they have a spider-sense telling then that a groupchat will be that like, the other 2 manage to know there's a chat created without themotherwise yeah, i do feel like i got a good bond with y'all guys, but no worries, i'm not the kind to just be about pagongs haha
otherwise, i do wonder when we'll be due for a swap now... are the mods somehow going to make 2 tribes work?
no is no. this post annoyed me because we already said no. even if you still want it, you stop pushing because we very clearly rejected the alliance! I understand that he really wanted this alliance but we really didn't want it. so the way to go would be to just make the alliance without us and also just on a 7 person tribe, what are you doing making a 5 person alliance?
?? 3-4 is a much more convenient size that serves you well. all around this alliance was just not what we wanted at all.Jul 4, 2021 19:54:48 GMT The Radiance said:
Jul 4, 2021 5:13:50 GMT Maat & Hathor said:
yeah we couldn't figure it out and we've given up at this point?for sure. poppy and hades are our favorites but we love everyone else too. odysseus STILL has not replied and since maat and i won't be here for most of tomorrow, we've locked in our vote there basically. unless something drastic happens, i think odysseus goes here.
-Hathy
Yeah, i think i got them pretty high too, to be fair everyone is pretty high haha, i think it's cuz like, this tribe has everyone who feels good going to TC, aka : social peoples
and odysseus replied, i'll try to update y'all on big developements that do happen while y'all are away
mmmm yikes. I don't know if radiance got the idol or not but his posts surrounding it are so weirdly timed and have this strange tone to them. I actually think that either him, phobos and deimos, or hades has it now. I don't think its hades but I will take a fat L if I'm wrong and I could see it. phobos and deimos were a little dramatic asking us if we had the idol and stuff which was sus af. tbh I don't even care. there's like 5 idols anyways so fuck me for not being able to get a single one.
Jul 4, 2021 21:00:26 GMT The Radiance said:
Nope i don't but there was 7 views, so quite the big ammount, but of course that can be artifically inflatedyeah think i see what you mean, to be wholly honest i find cerberus to be a bit short in his messages, is it just me not giving enough talking material?
also i wonder, did odysseus send something to you about sacrificing stuff and prometheus? i feel like he copy-pasted his message
This was the other favorite message from radiance. it read very very genuine and is a post that almost made me reconsider not working with radiance. from there tho, it just all went downhill
Jul 5, 2021 9:03:03 GMT The Radiance said:
well i dunno, i think pretending to be part of the stuck on "passwordpasswordpassword" group is pretty tempting, maybe like 2/3 peoples saw it before? also there's the question of maybe telling the password to peoples on white dragonah well, i've been consistently short but i'll try to give him more volume to work with then, thanks for the adivce !
yeah okay, these are the exact same talking points, ram and something else, but he's replying quick though
radiance has a lot of ... bad ideas and this is kind of where it starts to plummet downhill
telling anyone the password is simply not ok because all of taotie knows the password. using it for your own benefits is something that will instantly paint a target on your back.
Jul 5, 2021 20:29:08 GMT The Radiance said:
hmmm, i'm not sure how that could look bad for us? you mean, in a pagong-threat ish way? i was more thinking like, once we swap we tell a white dragon the pass and he claims it, which would be stealthy, and ain't necessary to go to a jotunn evenah well, he's busy, so maybe not haha
wait really? lol ok, why does the hillarious stuff never happens to me
sad timei'm pretty confident there's no way he dodges the boot there though?
no no no. stop. odysseus is sinking himself. LET HIM SINK. why are you soooo paranoid. he sent two similar messages just being like "the boot is definitely not me right?"
honestly, I am paranoid af but I feel like sometimes sending the same message phrased differently, especially a message like that, just reads so so badly to the receiver. they see it and it just looks like "man this dude has no connections"
he has enough connections to not be this paranoid and I just don't understand why he's going to send that to US especially. like we already aren't on great terms!!!
Jul 5, 2021 22:49:00 GMT The Radiance said:
it's like, the individual winners of the challenge on each tribe or something get to give a talkie-walkie to someone else, that allows to communicate through tribal linesyeah, i just got that from hades, so thanks for the confirm, i'm considering PM'ing everyone and telling them that odysseus is bluffing tbh, that sounds like a good idea to you?
and that's not the same story than i've got ! he told me that someone specifically threw *my* name under the bus, so the incoherence isn't too good for 'em, but yeah, most likely just scrambling for survival
NO NONOONONONONOONON WHAT ARE YOU DOING
I literally.
like right after I start thinking about maybe allying him for his honesty(that one post that I really liked), he just starts being super self conscious and paranoid and suggests giving the password to white dragon and then also PMING EVERYONE THAT ODYSSEUS IS LYING?!! why would you EVER do that here? everyone is telling you that odysseus is blowing up and a confirmed boot and you seem determined to make yourself the new odysseus.
-Maat