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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 4:36:33 GMT
In our talks throughout the game, the topic of how brutal and hard Survivor can be as a game to us soft-hearted folks came up a few times. I also know you had to make many hard decisions on your way to this position. What was the hardest decision you had to make this game? And what made it so hard? Do you regret any of the tougher decisions you had to make? I guess I should add to this, was any of that purported softness real? The hardest decision I think was how to deal with Jael. The f9 round, P&D had told us that Jael had the idol and it was really tough figuring out what we should do with that information. We figured that if Jael was going to shoot someone, it might be Cerberus and that was tough because we were worried that if we tried to guide the shot, they'd just turn around and shoot us instead. But at the time, I definitely felt like we owed Cerberus for the idol. Maat has talked about how we got idoled as a byproduct and I feel like that is sort of true but at the same time, it still means a lot to me!!! Either way, we ended up just deciding to not say anything and hoping for the best so I blame myself to a certain extent for Cerberus dying. I feel like I regret it but if I went back in time, I would still be paranoid and not know what to do. If I knew I could go back in time twice, I would definitely try convincing P&D that someone other than Cerberus is a big threat and see if that'll make it's way to Jael. I can say with certainty that I absolutely care .... probably more than I should about boots(I have actually just like asked if we could change boots halfway through almost every tribal). A lot of the times I want to let my heart guide me but Maat will pull me back and say what is better for the game. And Maat and I have fought for hours on end about these types of things. And for the most part, my heart has been guiding our play because I've been winning these arguments. I forced Hades and Jesus high into our trust rankings. I forced Life and Death high up there. The result is that these people need to be kept around and others must be sacrificed. Sometimes I don't feel as bad about booting someone(say they were pushing me) but most of the times I'll have had some sort of connection and that will hurt no matter what. Jaelllll I'm working on a reply to you. Its SUUUPER long and I've taken a break sorry for the wait :c -Hathy
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Hermes
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Post by Hermes on Aug 17, 2021 5:21:01 GMT
I will confess that I did sometimes lose track of who I was talking to. I think you played well, I think your vote for Persephone (over Me) said a lot about your character. I know that in these games you have to make hard choices and I'm sure you did (when I'm saying You, I mean the collective you). Next to Jael you were the "entity" I talked to the most. I appreciated the vote for Persephone even though the easy thing would've been to vote for me.
I had my 2 absolute closest allies in the game Loki and Jael both telling me to watch out for you, but I didn't listen to them, the 3 of us are all gone and you are at the end. Also I want to tell people about something else that happened in the game that shows that M&H was paying attention to the rules of a rated: complex game.
During the divine intervention with the vote steal (where you picked the other person anon) I had said publicly that I was picking Persephone, the reason I did that was to disguise my public connection to Jael. During the merge you quickly said "Wait how did you pick Persephone if she got a vote steal and you didn't?" then I had to reach out to Persephone, make up a weird lie to her to protect that lie. It would have been super easy to just brush that off as nothing, but you sussed out that I was lying. I don't know if that lie damaged our relationship, if it did I'm sorry. Congrats again!
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 5:35:35 GMT
Hi there. You know, your speech is something that I've seen a lot of and it bothers me every single time. The thing that people liked about you were the personas you were playing up, walking into an FTC and dropping them like MUAHAHA I HAVE FOOLED YOU ALL AND YOU ALL BOUGHT IT leaves an incredibly bad taste in my mouth every time, and you are no exception. That being said, I'm not surprised that this calculating "people are pawns" person was behind those personas, I already knew you only saw me as a pawn to be sacrificed at the ideal time, and so glad you've actually stated that to be the case. I really should have been Cassandra instead of Jael, cuz I warned a lot of people about you, and none of them took me at my word. But I suppose in a way, that's impressive in its own right. I don't know that I have many questions for you because most of the ones I had involved whether or not you legitimately cared about a lot of people, and your speech told me that you did not, and that's a weight off my back for sure, so thank you! I suppose the question I have for you is, you played an incredibly risky game that could have exploded in your face several times over, did you feel that you had to play that way? As I said for Hermes' reply, these are real personas! We did attempt to swap personalities with each other but our real personalities leaked through for sure. At the beginning of the game I was constantly saying things like "Maat said" or "Maat told me to" because I simply didn't resonate with this Hathor character. I didn't know how I was going to send all my beautiful cat gifs and smilie faces as this proper lady character. My last game I was told to try a gimmick so this game, when I decided to hydra, we talked and decided we would pretend to be each other. So Maat loves Kpop, boba, hanging out with her friends, Tiktok, and whatever else. I LOVE all of it. And I Hathor, "have a cut cat, love coffee, like merlot wine, am an art buff, etc etc etc". Maat loves all of that!! I do think this helped cover up our threat level because a lot of people thought we were total pushovers because of how we(I, specifically) posted. I think that if people thought that, then that is on them. Energy, passion, and inexperience are not equivalent to stupidity(or any nicer equivalent) and I definitely think a lot of people decided we would not be worthy opponents off of things that did not determine anything at all. We didn't see anyone as a pawn. I saw each person as an individual that I either wanted to work with or didn't. We lead the Moirai votes on you and that was the best move in our position. And I was actually the one that did most of that round's TC so definitely ask me specifically if there are any questions. We swapped into this tribe, Rakshasa with Hermes and Cerberus as our only close allies. Pretty soon we realized that Cerberus was close with both Athena and Persephone so we felt like we had no one. After some talking around, it seemed like you were the least connected so we pushed for you. I think this was beneficial for our game and we also did not pm you much while we were targeting you. I think we've been rather honest about who we are targeting because we would leave you on read for days on end. You offered me a lot of comfort during the first merge round where I felt no one was on my side and I felt absolute shit for leading Moirai votes on you. We said that we wanted to work with you, and we meant it. We put a lot of effort into getting P&D out to save you. We had dragged Hades by the pigtails (hah sorry I just thought of this and cant get the image out of my head) kicking and screaming to the P&D wagon. The next round, Hades was still very interested in voting you and we thought about it and decided that cutting you was better for our game. If we had tried to flag down the exact same wagon on you again, it would've been bad to our game. The support for the wagon on you was strong and we had other connections that we needed to build up at that point in time. After we heard the plan was to vote Persephone if you got immunity, we decided it was definitely time to cut you. Persephone was the only person actively advocating to save you and she was getting heat for it and that was our cue to back off. Can you go ahead and ask those questions? Maybe our answers will help! I think your last question is answered because I believe none of that was fake but if you want us to go more in depth, I'm willing to talk more about it. Maat and I discussed our gameplay and wrote this together. Hopefully it helps you understand our game a bit more! -Hathy
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 5:47:35 GMT
"The target changed from us to Cerberus but we didn’t get the full info on why that changed." Me. The target changed because I asked them not to vote for you. I think I told you this at the time, that I was getting involved with their underdogs alliance because I didn't want them to vote you out. Did you like... not believe me.. That you were the first and only person I told about voting Cerberus to, while panicing because I'd just stabbed what was my best friend, for you, and he was still there and I had no idea what the fuck to do in the situation.. What is wrong with you? Seriously you sound like a fucking robot, did you not notice I cared about you at all? I will admit, I forgot that detail and I apologize. You did tell us that you were responsible for getting the vote off of us and onto Cerberus. When you had admitted to us you had voted Cerberus, we were confused because we had fully convinced ourselves you and Cerberus were a tight pair, committed to each other until the end. When you revealed that, we became distrustful of you. Why hadn't you told us about Cerberus' blindside ahead of time? You didn't tell us you voted Cerberus on your own volition but because we asked you if your vote was taken from the idol. When we felt like, to get information out of you, we had to dig for it, that's when we became distrustful. We did notice that you cared, and it made voting for you a difficult choice, but we still made that choice because we did not know what you were planning. It felt like you had been caught instead of you opening up to us and I hope you understand why we resorted to making that decision. -maat
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 5:54:50 GMT
I don't really have any questions for you and really just came in here to say I read your speech and you played a phenomenal game and am so proud of you! I do want to make one minor correction to your speech because I am a pedantic asshole: if I had won the FIC, you 100% would have been the final juror instead of me. Thank you Mr. Plutoooooo HAHAHAHAHA ok well then I don't have to be nice either >.< I'm imagining you with these pigtails here: -Hathy
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 6:00:49 GMT
I have the same demand of both of you: make me give a shit about why you should win this game. I had no connection with either of you and quite frankly no reason to vote for either of you in any way, shape or form here, so my vote is live. Earn it. Hey Elo, sure we might not have had a connection in this game, but we were connected through our love for chaos. We played this game reveling in the moments of unsureness. DI's that shook up the game and votes planned at the last minute were our (at least Maat's) favorite. We deserve your vote because we managed to ride that thin line between order and destruction and got to the end for it. We never tried to play a perfect and clean game because we both knew it was impossible due to the other having a completely playstyle. Sometimes Maat wanted something that went against Hathor's plan. Sometimes Hathor wanted something that went against Maat's plan. Neither player was going to have control 100% of the time and just trusting the other player to manage themselves and do things for the good of our slot was chaos in it's own rite. -Maat and Hathor.
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 6:27:10 GMT
I will confess that I did sometimes lose track of who I was talking to. I think you played well, I think your vote for Persephone (over Me) said a lot about your character. I know that in these games you have to make hard choices and I'm sure you did (when I'm saying You, I mean the collective you). Next to Jael you were the "entity" I talked to the most. I appreciated the vote for Persephone even though the easy thing would've been to vote for me. I had my 2 absolute closest allies in the game Loki and Jael both telling me to watch out for you, but I didn't listen to them, the 3 of us are all gone and you are at the end. Also I want to tell people about something else that happened in the game that shows that M&H was paying attention to the rules of a rated: complex game. During the divine intervention with the vote steal (where you picked the other person anon) I had said publicly that I was picking Persephone, the reason I did that was to disguise my public connection to Jael. During the merge you quickly said "Wait how did you pick Persephone if she got a vote steal and you didn't?" then I had to reach out to Persephone, make up a weird lie to her to protect that lie. It would have been super easy to just brush that off as nothing, but you sussed out that I was lying. I don't know if that lie damaged our relationship, if it did I'm sorry. Congrats again! I told maat to stick to comic sans >:C Ah we actually voted for you. I can't remember off the top of my head who that vote for Persephone was but it could be Poppy? We did fight very hard for you and got targeted the next round for it. However, once we realized we didn't have the numbers since Persephone had a steal vote and Jesus told us we should do some jury management, we chose to back off and vote you. It wasn't that it was the easy vote that made us vote you but rather that we didn't want the backlash of leading the vote on Persephone AND be one of the few that went through with it. -Hathor Ah, yes, that Hadith pick! I remember that. At that point, Hathor and I were trying to collect a list of what everyone did and suss out who had a steal a vote. We initially didn't trust that you just hadn't gotten a steal a vote and that there was something shady afoot. Hathor set the trap of asking Perse who she went in with and we had caught you in that lie. It felt a bit dirty and we didn't want you to get mad that we had tried to expose you like that, so we came to you to giving you the chance to be honest about that move. I don't think it ruined our relationship as we had already known somewhat how close you/Loki/Jael were, but it definitely did make us a bit wary about how Rakshasa would play out. -Maat
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Post by Phobos & Deimos on Aug 17, 2021 10:54:49 GMT
Oh, so its okay for you to have an alliance of Everyone-In-Taotie-But-Deimos but it's not okay for me to vote my way into it? I see how it is. :V Please, I didn't tell you until after because you'd try to stop me despite the results being good for you. Sorry that I'm not an idiot. Then again I did throw the games of the Titans away for someone that didn't give a shit about me so perhaps I should revise my opinion of my own intelligence.
Look. My vote should be an easy lock vote for you. Like you said we allied from the moment we met. I kept telling people pre-merge how much I wanted to see you again! Conversely I have no relationship with Jesus, a person I barely talked to until merge and made no new connection with. If you'd let me get squeezed out after Jael and Perse like a normal person I would have been your biggest advocate! Instead I'm left jilted, I went out of my way to help you and as a reward you threw me away! Gotta say sending me to go tell Cerberus you knew he was going is not what I'd have chosen for jury atmosphere but you do you. Most shocking to me is I don't think you realized I'd be this upset. Humans get mad when other humans stab them, you should note that down Maat.
So here's what I'm asking. I'm not going to believe you reciprocated my feelings of allyship now and I'm well past forgiveness. So give me a reason I should vote for someone that fucked me so hard anyways. I'm the kind of person that hates being bored and your story of how you stabbed your way to the end is very boring, I need more then this to excuse what you did to me. Make me feel like it mattered that you -had- to target me, tell me how great your game was, tell me how Jesus sucks, I really don't care how you sway me. Heck if you can explain how it was part of a long nefarious tactic that'd be fine too I love plotting by numbers. I think you're being dishonest anyways about how pre-planned the boot order was. (voting me out to save Jael does nothing to stop them from being the auto-vote next round so pretending you did it for them is erm. God you couldn't even let me beat Jael. My elo is in shambles..)
This is the only thing I want from you. If you can stop All The Things I Did For You (That You Didn't Ask For) from playing in my head every time I think of you I'd probably vote for you!
- I can't believe you all called me PD behind my back.. no one ever used that to my face.. just call me Deimos geez
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Post by Persephone on Aug 17, 2021 16:18:56 GMT
Hello! I think you played a great game overall of being in the center and being able to recover from misplays.
For me personally, I think you and Jesus were the only two people who did anything close to jury management in the round I left. A lot of my bitterness has subsided since I left but had it been you v Hades or Jesus v Hades, I would know automatically where to vote.
I have a couple questions for you that will help me decide what to do with my vote.
Can you talk a bit about your jury management philosophy overall? I think this should be addressed given Deimos's comments. (Also I'm sorry Deimos!!! I didn't know you didn't like being called PD!)
I know we patched up our relationship and it's something you tout as a big accomplishment, but not really sure why you decided to vote out Deimos instead of Jael. While that was my personal preference and I was pleased it happened, the biggest push seemed to come from you. You mentioned in our pm thread that Phobos and Deimos would be mad at you and I'm not sure you did anything to prevent what's going on in your thread. I'm curious what your plan was for our (MH and Perse) relationship. You apologized to me when I left saying you did want to go far but that the numbers/situation just wasn't there.
Can you walk me through your thinking for the boot order of Deimos, Jael, and then me?
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Post by Athena on Aug 17, 2021 16:21:00 GMT
I have a bit of a self-centered question to ask, but given how you presented yourself in your speech I think it is appropriate.
During my final round, I had intended to vote Poppy regardless of who won immunity and thought everyone else would do the same. I quickly found out that wasn't the case, and I mostly understood that decision. I reached out to you and Jesus in the hopes of possibly changing your mind, but told you not to let me bother if you'd already made a decision. Both of you heard me out and I spent several hours that days writing PMs to both of you pleading my case. However, based on what I gather now, you were planning to vote me out then for quite some time. In fact, you would have voted me out earlier if I hadn't won immunity.
Was there honestly ever a chance that I could have changed your mind in that final round? Or was I wasting my time playing the game the second I didn't win immunity? I would appreciate full honesty here.
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 16:49:10 GMT
like do u want me to show up to ftc and be like haha, u all thought i was the real jesus and i fooled u? Jesus, can you not? We have not said a single negative thing about you or your game and I feel very personally attacked. I put my entire heart and soul into this game and cared about every relationship that I built up. On more than one occasion I would fight so hard with Maat because my heart couldn't deal with people going. The thing about promising cat pics was very unnecessary as well. I had already asked Maat if I could promise her cat pics(she has TWO cats) to people and she agreed which is why I promised people cat pics. The emotion behind our posts were real. The new player energy was real. The cat pics were real. Everything was real and it hurts like fuck to hear you of all people saying that. Searching our mod chat, 781 results for Jesus 7 results for I love Jesus 4 results for I love Jesussssss 2 results for No one touches my Susu 2 results for My precious Susu "go tell Jesus you got the pixie dust" "i was planning to just stroll in and be like ok jesus we're going to hawaii" "to jesus but im going to wait twenty minutes otherwise it seems like im too eager to talk to him" "i already got jesus to change his [avatar] dats enough trouble for meeee" "im only replying to jesus unless other people are saying fun fluffy things" I won't go on but please stop. -Hathy
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 17:39:21 GMT
Oh, so its okay for you to have an alliance of Everyone-In-Taotie-But-Deimos but it's not okay for me to vote my way into it? I see how it is. :V Please, I didn't tell you until after because you'd try to stop me despite the results being good for you. Sorry that I'm not an idiot. Then again I did throw the games of the Titans away for someone that didn't give a shit about me so perhaps I should revise my opinion of my own intelligence. Look. My vote should be an easy lock vote for you. Like you said we allied from the moment we met. I kept telling people pre-merge how much I wanted to see you again! Conversely I have no relationship with Jesus, a person I barely talked to until merge and made no new connection with. If you'd let me get squeezed out after Jael and Perse like a normal person I would have been your biggest advocate! Instead I'm left jilted, I went out of my way to help you and as a reward you threw me away! Gotta say sending me to go tell Cerberus you knew he was going is not what I'd have chosen for jury atmosphere but you do you. Most shocking to me is I don't think you realized I'd be this upset. Humans get mad when other humans stab them, you should note that down Maat. So here's what I'm asking. I'm not going to believe you reciprocated my feelings of allyship now and I'm well past forgiveness. So give me a reason I should vote for someone that fucked me so hard anyways. I'm the kind of person that hates being bored and your story of how you stabbed your way to the end is very boring, I need more then this to excuse what you did to me. Make me feel like it mattered that you -had- to target me, tell me how great your game was, tell me how Jesus sucks, I really don't care how you sway me. Heck if you can explain how it was part of a long nefarious tactic that'd be fine too I love plotting by numbers. I think you're being dishonest anyways about how pre-planned the boot order was. (voting me out to save Jael does nothing to stop them from being the auto-vote next round so pretending you did it for them is erm. God you couldn't even let me beat Jael. My elo is in shambles..) This is the only thing I want from you. If you can stop All The Things I Did For You (That You Didn't Ask For) from playing in my head every time I think of you I'd probably vote for you! - I can't believe you all called me PD behind my back.. no one ever used that to my face.. just call me Deimos geez I want to answer your question straightforwardly and honestly. We’re not looking for forgiveness and you’re not looking to give that to us; you want the cold hard facts about my strategy. For the whole truth, you were a prize to us. A shiny golden prize. So many other players tried taking you out and failed. Bilious with his Greed Idol thought he could be the sole vote to take you out of the game and we took that away from him. Loki and Viy on Vanara threw themselves out premerge going after you and you changed up everyone’s opinions on Vanara. You were a treasure to us. Because in that round, we controlled the votes. We knew we had our double vote. We knew Hades would use his double vote. We even knew Jesus had his steal a vote that we could use. And we wanted you as something we could point to as our move. No one else’s. I don’t think it’d make you feel better knowing that but i think you’d respect that truth. You were a serious game player and we wanted the satisfaction of being the ones that took you out. It took my entire day to convince Hades to vote for you even though it didn't benefit him, just so I could point to that round and say, I did that. Why did it have to be you? Why did we throw all our fire power to get you out? Because you were playing the middle just like we were and you were threatening to us. We didn’t hate you for voting for Cerberus and not telling us. We did the same to you with Fili and Kili so it’d be bullshit to pretend we were taken aback. We hated you for the fact that it almost worked. If Cerberus didn’t pull out that idol, he would have gone home without a hitch and you would have had the satisfaction explaining to us your hands in that move. Now that we had the votes, we wanted to make sure we solidified once and for all who had the power the whole time. Additionally, you going helped us because it gave us more fluidity in the next round. We had already reformed our relationship with Perse and we at least hoped we had a chance of working with Jael. We were prepared for anything at the Final 7. If Jael chose a DI like Defense of Ulstor or The Flood to get out of a tribal, we were ready to make sure we didn't attract votes. Having you in the game was a risk because you were also trying to play that side. You knew about Jael's idol and you knew we had pushed for Cerberus. You knew we also just let that round happen without doing anything about it and that was a risk to us. At least with you gone at the Final 7, Athena/Hades/Perse couldn't run to you if they needed to. Everyone needed us on their side to flip the votes, not you. That was our nefarious plan with you. We played the numbers game and we saw that you were a factor we needed to divide out. -Maat
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 17:43:17 GMT
Hello! I think you played a great game overall of being in the center and being able to recover from misplays. For me personally, I think you and Jesus were the only two people who did anything close to jury management in the round I left. A lot of my bitterness has subsided since I left but had it been you v Hades or Jesus v Hades, I would know automatically where to vote. I have a couple questions for you that will help me decide what to do with my vote. Can you talk a bit about your jury management philosophy overall? I think this should be addressed given Deimos's comments. (Also I'm sorry Deimos!!! I didn't know you didn't like being called PD!) I know we patched up our relationship and it's something you tout as a big accomplishment, but not really sure why you decided to vote out Deimos instead of Jael. While that was my personal preference and I was pleased it happened, the biggest push seemed to come from you. You mentioned in our pm thread that Phobos and Deimos would be mad at you and I'm not sure you did anything to prevent what's going on in your thread. I'm curious what your plan was for our (MH and Perse) relationship. You apologized to me when I left saying you did want to go far but that the numbers/situation just wasn't there. Can you walk me through your thinking for the boot order of Deimos, Jael, and then me?
Persieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee So jury management is a good question! I think it's really complicated because we are a hydra and we don't agree on a lot of things. I originally was down to be absolute enemies with you which is why I'm really proud of myself for getting over that(it is most definitely my proudest moment in the game) and being ready and willing to work with you. I felt like after targeting you, there was no way we could be friends anymore and you'd just hate me. I also felt guilty because you were actually really kind to us but I was so worried about the titan blob the whole time. So I was completely ready to be enemies for life but Maat told me "Hey stop she actually really wants to talk things out. She's being so genuine and honest. Give her a damn chance Hathor" And that really snapped me back to reality and seeing that you actually were being really genuine and trying your best to talk things out. Around the time that I sent that double post asking about how life was was when I put down my paranoia and decided I was going to flip to a new leaf and start over. This might get a bit long but I truly feel like it was a really beautiful moment where I was able to put down the past and move on. The first merge tribal, I actually felt like total shit on so many levels even though everyone was being so nice to me and I guess I had a really hard time both forgiving myself and the other people in the game. So hearing you forgive me was something that I didn't expect and it was such a beautiful moment. That one round pact may not have seemed like much but when I saw that post, I felt like the world was the most beautiful thing ever. I wrote like a two page long essay about our journey in confeshie. Like legitimately probably six times longer than this post will be. It was my proudest moment in this game and it will literally always be. I feel like everyone held my hand through the round and I've become a better person and player through it I got a bit off track ;-; Anyways, for jury management, I feel like our philosophy was to just try our best to be on good terms with jurors. We didn't really do too much for the first couple rounds because they were super messy but moving forward, we did try our best to let jurors know what was happening in the game. We were honest about our votes and we tried our best to explain our circumstances. For you, it was because Athena had gotten immunity. For Athena it was because of her challenge performance. It was a bit more complicated but we'll expand on that in her post. For poppy, we directly told her that her game was amazing and we would get our asses steamrolled in ftc. Hades was not our choice but had we gotten immunity, we would've told him why we was choosing Jesus. Jesus had been our number one since f11 and we had been determined to get this exact f2 since a very long time ago. I think at one point in time, we realized that people didn't feel that connected to you which would make going far really difficult. Forcing it would likely sink us with you which is why I think we ended up assuming the order would go Athena -> you/poppy or you/hades -> the other. We weren't entirely sure how close Poppy and Hades were at that point in time though both had already shaded the other to us a couple times at that point. So it was possible but I also knew that you would seem like the easy boot. All in all, I wanted to take you far for sure. Even the plan with you dying the earliest, it was still the round after you died >.< Hopefully that made sense. Yeah the numbers weren't there. Jesus' name was also being floated that round which really forced our hand. Had Athena not gotten immunity, I believe votes would have consolidated there. The main argument against you was that you would sell an underdog story that the entire jury would love and I didn't really care about that at the time. I felt like you were really genuine and I wanted to work with you. In hindsight, I do think you would do really well at FTC but at the time that was not a concern of ours. -Hathy
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Post by Maat & Hathor on Aug 17, 2021 18:31:32 GMT
I have a bit of a self-centered question to ask, but given how you presented yourself in your speech I think it is appropriate. During my final round, I had intended to vote Poppy regardless of who won immunity and thought everyone else would do the same. I quickly found out that wasn't the case, and I mostly understood that decision. I reached out to you and Jesus in the hopes of possibly changing your mind, but told you not to let me bother if you'd already made a decision. Both of you heard me out and I spent several hours that days writing PMs to both of you pleading my case. However, based on what I gather now, you were planning to vote me out then for quite some time. In fact, you would have voted me out earlier if I hadn't won immunity. Was there honestly ever a chance that I could have changed your mind in that final round? Or was I wasting my time playing the game the second I didn't win immunity? I would appreciate full honesty here. Hey Athena, When you sent your message of “Can I make my plea or is it worthless.” I did not lie when I said our mind wasn’t made up and that we would hear you out. Hathor wasn’t online and we made all our decisions together so genuinely, our mind wasn’t made up because we hadn't talked about what we wanted to do yet. We won immunity, got super freaking excited and both kind of took a breather that night. When you told us you were at work but wanted to chat, we wanted to hear what you had to say. We were looking for some sort of secret F2 that you had or a path to the end you had kept from us, because if you trusted us with something like that we would have been willing to consider a change in plans. That's a bit oversimplified but that's essentially what we were looking for - some connection that we didn't know existed. We also wanted to hear from others. We were looking for Poppy to reveal she had some secret Final 2 alliance with you and the Life & Death was all a ruse she and wanted to target Hades there. Or Jesus to try go back on what he said the round before and change his mind about targeting you. We left our options open but when nothing cropped up and we felt sure of our connections and knew exactly what alliances people had, we made that decision. -Maat & Hathor
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Post by Cerberus on Aug 17, 2021 19:26:15 GMT
Happy head: Hey, congrats on making it to the final 2! What's more is that i think you played a better game than jesus and that you are right in saying that jesus wouldn't be there without you. That said...my vote is undecided. I think my fellow heads want to talk to you.
Sad head: i would have thought we meant something to your game or you personally but if that were true you probably would have mentioned it by now. i don't think jael should ask the questions because i think your speech made it clear you seem proud of using people as pawns, that's the impression i got at least. i don't even feel like my lim was a move, just something that happened to you that you could have cared less about.
Angry head: My question to you is...you lied to us, don't seem to care about us, and despite me publicly telling the world "i don't want M+H to go at this time" by using an idol on you, you felt totally fine betraying us without batting an eye or feeling the least bit sorry for it. Make it make sense.
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